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j.e. moyer, LPC's avatar

As a psychotherapist and a man, I've observed a sense of freedom men often have with their bodies. Walking alone at night or facing less pressure around appearance are privileges I haven't always considered. Social media creates a vicious comparative culture, bombarding us with unrealistic expectations and highlighting physical flaws. This can make anyone feel insecure and question their body autonomy, leading to anxiety and depression. It's crucial to be mindful of what we consume online and cultivate a kind of body neutrality – appreciating our unique bodies for what they are, not just how they look.

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Jul 17Edited

These people are, I hate to say, extremely gullible and manipulated. This entire masculinist internet culture is the product of grifters, who these men, because of some deep insecurity and inability go think for themselves, have been sucked into.

It's a subculture where a man presents himself as prototypically hegemonic and then manipulates the fragile masculinity of a particular type of weak- minded and self-doubting man to adopt the behaviors he sets.

What's especially depressing about it, besides the unhappiness it creates in ALL these men is that they are drawn in by a desire for validation, connection, approval--even love. But it's so deeply cynical and manipulative and empty that the very thing the person craves becomes frightening or less valuable to them, because these things require some openness and self-acceptance and the norms they are taught actually teach them to fear these moments, and suspect others.,

Sometimes I guess they have the distraction of body building, materialism, and so on but they've really all learned to strip out their worth as an individual and see themselves and others as a commodity. Such a life cannot be meaningful.

Not to mention their TOTAL subservience to the hegemonic man who lives in their head, possibly from a youtube channel or school or somewhere.

They aren't living an authentic life, based on their own desires. They're being told by someone else what to do, what to want, how to be.

What you said is profoundly threatening to them, because all their vast efforts are centered around fear of what they want, their own standard humanness, any honesty or vulnerabilty--and you don't have this affliction. You ARE authentic. You are doing the thing they've been manipulated to fear--you are being real.

It's not about bodies so much as it is about minds. What you have is antifragile. Yes, they can hurt you but they can't destroy you. You can keep seeking human connection. You don't suspect every interaction is a dominance struggle, you aren't going to flip out at your romantic partner for having their own opinion. It's just a deeper form of security, even if you don't feel particularly confident--you are confident enough to be authentic, which is very hard for people and why they get weird like this.

You have your own beliefs. You are brave enough to state them.

Note their EXTREME fear of the feminine, in themselves especially. This can become pathological. They sometimes even get painful surgeries because of the pathology this fear causes. Go look at Leonardo DiCaprios face. If THEY had his face they would be anxious and mutilate it because his face was very soft, his chin is not prominent

Almost no film stars have the face they think is adequately unfeminine. Virtually all handsome yourhs have the characteristics--because the point of this subculture is to make you hate yourself.

It's called looksmaxxing. It's really awful. Pleaase never do it.

This is all very sad. I remember when it started on reddit!

I know it's hard to hear this shit from them but trust me that as a young man, you have dodged a bullet!

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