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Anonymous Dude's avatar

I freely admit colonialism was bad (as any ex-colonized people will tell you), and it's quite possible women had greater roles in pre-colonization Yoruba society--the Iroquois had a women's council after all. Certainly other cultures had religious roles for women.

However, I can't think of a state society that hasn't been patriarchal. Confucian China? Islamic caliphates? The various rulers of India over the years? The West's actually *less* patriarchal than China or the various Islamic societies, which was a source of occasional friction--nowadays we'll bring up the Yoruba but not the British Raj governor banning sati. (80 years ago it was the reverse.)

For whatever reason, egalitarian societies don't seem to 'scale'. And even in those you tend to see some degree of gender roles with men doing more hunting and women doing more childrearing, even if you don't have the widespread inequality seen in state societies.

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Vincent Aupry's avatar

Completely agree !

There was some point I was thinking about an answer to the question "What is it to be a man today ? What is masculine ?"

And I started to list things I thought could be part of this.

And literally all of them were qualities I'd also appreciate in a woman.

The only conclusion to me was that the very idea of something being masculine or not is useless. Just have good values and embody them.

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